TehCaster | 5 points | Apr 05 2021 11:12:49

Hydroxychloroquine and other 'miracle cures' continue to fuel Brazil's outbreak

https://abcnews.go.com/International/hydroxychloroquine-miracle-cures-continue-fuel-brazils-outbreak/story?id=76682504

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[-] machinelearny | 6 points | Apr 05 2021 13:49:34

Discussion:

  1. Nobody claims it is a miracle cure. There are many treatments that help, unfortunately they are all made out as conspiracy theories.
  2. The claims that nothing works is the problem. If the scientific community (like WHO and NIH) provided guidance on early treatment and people could get prescriptions from doctors following these guidelines and taking patient history into consideration, then none of these problems pointed out would be happen.
  3. There is no indication that the fact there is early treatment options promoted by the federal government has any impact whatsoever on behavior.
  4. Brazil is not the USA or Europe, there are poor people that don't have any other options.
  5. The government doesn't have the resources of the USA or Europe to just print money. Even though Brazil is actually doing pretty well economically, the currency has been devalued for some reason.
  6. All things considered, the claims that the Brasilian government did a horrendous job is mostly political. Personally I don't like Bolsonaro, I'm a vegan and obviously pro environment etc. and his government is in direct opposition to that. But one cannot find fault with everything just because you don't like his policies. I am actually quite glad he's in charge and not somebody like Doria, because at least vaccine passports and crazy restrictions against constitutional freedoms are not being imposed at the federal level, so the local state imposed unconstitutional rules cannot be enforced legally, which I feel is a small win. These should be recommendations, not laws imposed and brutally enforced.
  7. If there wasn't a concerted effort against early treatments, perhaps Brasil could have been in the same position as India.
  8. If early treatment options were so bad, why are other countries promoting them doing so much better?
  9. It does appear like this new strain is a different beast. Again, if early treatment was aggressively adopted (preferably prophylaxes) then perhaps we would not have had this strain appear here, since COVID could have been pretty much eradicated months ago.

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[-] machinelearny | 3 points | Apr 05 2021 13:58:39

And have a look at the other actual research article linked in another post, showing how early treatment actually helps, unlike the unsubstantiated statements made in the media:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/350365014_Comparisons_between_the_Neighboring_States_of_Amazonas_and_Para_in_Brazil_in_the_Second_Wave_of_COVID-19_Outbreak_and_a_Possible_Role_of_Early_Ambulatory_Treatment

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[-] biskitwheels | 3 points | Apr 05 2021 16:06:57

This is the strongest endorsement for Ivermectin I've seen Disney ever give.

"His wife, family and his employees on the farm had all contracted COVID-19 and were taking hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin, an anti-parasite drug, for treatment. "I'm breathless," the patient told him. With local hospitals overrun, Caramelli convinced the patient and his wife to stop taking hydroxychloroquine and get an ambulance to São Paulo"

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