machinelearny | 11 points | Apr 01 2021 17:55:32

Dr. Andrew Hill and Unitaid

I find the silence from Andrew Hill deafening.

He was extremely positive on ivermectin and after a certain date didn't utter a single word on the subject.

Furthermore, he claimed to have weekly meetings with ongoing studies worldwide and compiling the results into a comprehensive meta-analysis as it comes out. It seemed like he had the most up-to-date information and I was waiting for updates on the current state of research, but nothing came.

I really wonder what the complete reason for his silence is. I can think of a few scenarios:

  1. He suddenly realized he was being too optimistic and saw something that made him realize the studies he was putting too much faith in were actually so severely flawed so as to be meaningless. Hence he just distanced himself from it so as not to harm his reputation. This would be very unlikely though...
  2. He saw something specific, perhaps the results of a large study that never got published or something like that, that made him realize ivermectin doesn't actually work. So he distanced himself so as not to harm his reputation. If this was the case, then it would be highly un-ethical of him not to speak out and tell everybody about this major flaw/issue whatever he noticed. So again, highly unlikely. For 1. above I would also consider it unethical not to publicly speak out if indeed he realized he was wrong before.
  3. He was told by the WHO not to make any public statements since it could be used to cast doubt on his work, imply bias etc. I thought this might have been the case, back when I was still a naive little boy thinking the WHO would do the right thing soon. But now that they came out against, I cannot imagine this to be the case.
  4. He was told by somebody else not to make statements/promote IVM for other reasons, or else...
  5. He realized by himself that the IVM fight was a lost cause and he didn't want to risk his career by fighting for something that will never bear fruit anyway. Made a calculated decision to not support it anymore. Thinking to himself (and justifying it with) that the vaccines are being highly successful so it's not a big deal anymore.

Anyway, all of the above are depressing and he has gone from a bright light in this whole depressing void of an international crime against humanity to one of the silent promotors of the narrative that the only solution is the vaccine.

I would have loved to hear the actual results of the weekly meetings and tracking of current IVM research that he said he was doing. As well as his perspective on this topic. But I guess that will never be.

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[-] IVMBeLvr | 3 points | Apr 01 2021 22:54:26

Very well written analysis of possible motives for the situation concerning Andrew Hill. I would like to add another one--more ominous and much less positive and, to my way of thinking, just as likely. Perhaps the good doctor was just "bought off" by the pharmaceutical industry?

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[-] TehCaster | 3 points | Apr 01 2021 23:59:30

So there's actually a question about him in the latest FLCCC update, and Dr. Kory says he hopes Hill will finish his review, get it published and start doing lectures, as "he has data that we don't" (but what might that be? preliminary data from the ongoing large trials that were shared only with him?)

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[-] machinelearny | 2 points | Apr 02 2021 23:26:59

He has well and truly been shut up:

Dr. Hill informed TrialSite, “I am happy with the final version of this meta-analysis as posted on Research Square.” Reiterating the dominant consensus of major research-based institutions and regulators, Dr. Hill emphasized, “Large randomized trials will be required to validate the clinical efficacy of ivermectin.” Dr. Hill reminded all that, “This is also the opinion of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), the European Medicines Agency (EMEA) and the World Health Organization (WHO).”

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[-] IVMBeLvr | 3 points | Apr 04 2021 00:12:57

I agree that Hill has been "shut up". His mouth has been closed either by stuffing it with CASH or by THREAT to his future in medicine. Unfortunately, whichever of these is true, he has proven to be a coward, and he will have some responsibility for future unnecessary deaths of patients unfortunate enough to be treated by similarly cowardly hospitals and doctors who refuse to consider the use of ivermectin.

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[-] bikes4paul | 1 points | Apr 01 2021 22:13:04

I've heard it from a pretty reliable source that it was number 3, at least initially. It was early and I believe he thought the WHO still might indeed support IVM. However, it became increasingly clear that they wouldn't well prior to their official guidance statement. Not sure when he realized that fact but I'm sure he saw it coming well before the guidance was issued. They were the only remaining hope to provide the support needed for a rapid global adoption of IVM. Now we are left with word of mouth and circulating doctors who will treat their patients without the interference of the Ivory Towers.

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[-] TehCaster | 5 points | Apr 01 2021 23:54:22

Could have been 3, followed by 5. Once you believe the evidence is sufficient, and nobody is acting on it, you can either do 5, or you start advocating and indeed risk your career. So did Dr. Kory and lost his dayjob. So did Dr. Lawrie and as I understand she and the e-bmc can't do the Cochrane reviews anymore because they perceive her as biased after the video statement to Boris Johnson, so now both now need to pivot to non-profit work. Not everyone is prepared to risk their careers like that.

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