Snoo-40467 | 2 points | Mar 14 2021 16:41:36

Would food grade diatomaceous earth be as effective for covid as IVM?

Many people swear by it as a colon cleanser, as well as for it's anti parasitic properties.

Some covid related articles I've found

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/covid-19-food-grade-diatomaceous-earth-virus-destruction-vlad-zah

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[-] mystend | 5 points | Mar 14 2021 16:48:51

No

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[-] Chengiss | 3 points | Mar 14 2021 17:44:50

And that is what this sub has become. Near about the time TumpLyftAlles left.

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[-] Snoo-40467 | 1 points | Mar 14 2021 17:47:33

Not my fault IVM is unavailable in my country and can't get it like it's tons of gold in terms of availability

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[-] beepmonster | 1 points | Mar 14 2021 18:00:23

What country? Usually if anyone has farm animals, they have access to ivermectin.

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[-] Snoo-40467 | 1 points | Mar 14 2021 18:01:27

Montenegro. I contacted veterinary company and they say it can't be given to humans, only animals and in person.

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[-] Lekstadt | 1 points | Mar 15 2021 02:58:41

Why not buy from India?

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[-] Snoo-40467 | 3 points | Mar 15 2021 03:16:03

Would take a lot of time to get here. I look for an immidiate source

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[-] Lekstadt | 1 points | Mar 15 2021 23:19:33

If it's really urgent, it would be an option to ask the seller to ship it overnight with a private courier. I am afraid there is nothing like it.

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[-] stereomatch | 1 points | Mar 16 2021 16:14:10

Even if you don't have ivermectin, far more time-sensitive is access to steroids when day 7-8 comes around and oximeter readings fall or alternatively pulse rate elevates to 90s or 100+ even at rest.

At that time the life saver is prednisolone (or dexamethasone) - the important thing is for patients to have oximeter and on first signs of oximeter fall etc to get help from an informed physician.

You will need this even if you get ivermectin - since some (fewer) ivermectin users also progress to this stage.

So more importantly - if you have high risk people in your household - to identify in advance the physicians who treat early and aggressively. That will come in use when you go looking for a physician at the last moment.

In general ivermectin and Famotidine help during day 1-8 period, and steroids need to be available at a moment's notice starting day 7-8. The reason people die is delays and waiting for PCR test results and thinking you don't have covid19 if PCR test is negative (negative PCR test tells you nothing diagnostically).

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[-] MillionEyesOfSumuru | 2 points | Mar 14 2021 17:58:05

A quick perusal of pubmed showed me one paper on the use of diatomaceous earth for fighting intestinal parasites, but it was on chickens, not humans, and was only meant to apply to chickens. It seems like an interesting subject, but from what I saw I don't think it's ready for medical prime time.

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[-] Haitchpeasauce | 2 points | Mar 16 2021 08:51:29

As others have pointed out, this is not relevant to Ivermectin.

Also, I would steer clear of DE. I experimented with it to deal with fleas, it did nothing to kill them but did great making the house dusty and ruined a vacuum cleaner. The fine abrasive dust is cause for concern.

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[-] stereomatch | 1 points | Mar 16 2021 16:05:37

Any abrasive dust is a possible vector for lung damage.

Compared to that "old dust" ie which has experienced environmental weathering is smoother.

An example of fresh abrasive dust would be the moon dust that astronauts found was sticking to everything on the Moon. Since there was no environmental weathering the moon dust was sharp and highly prickly. And may be a problem for any future plans for Moon colonization.

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[-] Joey1849 | 2 points | Mar 17 2021 04:58:36

The above comments are correct. Breathing diatomaceous earth is a long established cause of silicosis ie permanent lung damage.

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[-] stereomatch | 1 points | Mar 14 2021 17:18:02

Interesting - actually there may be some remedies against worms etc which use such materials that gets rid of worms.

However this seems to be talking of using it to decontaminate wastewater, or alternatively to rid gut of virus - but problem is the virus is not necessarily in stool but may be embedded in tissue.

Unless someone can demonstrate it's effectiveness, it seems on the face of it to be weak.

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[-] 1day2 | 1 points | Mar 14 2021 17:43:38

no

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