foggynotion | 10 points
Here comes the mainstream news hitjob - "Associated Press Fact Check: No evidence ivermectin is a miracle drug against COVID-19" (US 2020-12-11)https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9768999400
[-] MacroTurtleLibido | 3 points
LOL
What an ignoramus. And am I to understand that the Ap is now sourcing Facebook as their factchecker? WT actual F?
[-] foggynotion | 2 points
CLAIM: The antiparasitic drug ivermectin “has a miraculous effectiveness that obliterates” the transmission of COVID-19 and will prevent people from getting sick.
AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. There’s no evidence ivermectin has been proven a safe or effective treatment against COVID-19.
"No evidence has been shown to prove that ivermectin works against COVID-19. According to the FDA, side effects for the drug include skin rash, nausea and vomiting. "
"This is part of The Associated Press’ ongoing effort to fact-check misinformation that is shared widely online, including work with Facebook to identify and reduce the circulation of false stories on the platform."
So actually it was fact checked by facebook and verified from some lady at the Assosiated Press. Such bullshit. This will probably go out as the main narrative and will unfortunately be widely quoted.
[-] TrumpLyftAlles | 2 points
I'm posting the entire article, so someday historians can point out that the author, Ms. Dupuy, got this one WRONG. Articles like this tend to go away after a while.
#No evidence ivermectin is a miracle drug against COVID-19
By BEATRICE DUPUY
2020-12-11
CLAIM: The antiparasitic drug ivermectin “has a miraculous effectiveness that obliterates” the transmission of COVID-19 and will prevent people from getting sick.
AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. There’s no evidence ivermectin has been proven a safe or effective treatment against COVID-19.
THE FACTS: During a Senate hearing Tuesday, a group of doctors touted alternative COVID-19 treatments, including ivermectin and the anti-malaria medication hydroxychloroquine. Medical experts have cautioned against using either of those drugs to treat COVID-19. Studies have shown that hydroxychloroquine has no benefit against the coronavirus and can have serious side effects. No evidence has been shown to prove that ivermectin works against COVID-19.
Dr. Pierre Kory, a pulmonary and critical care specialist at Aurora St Luke’s Medical Center in Milwaukee, described ivermectin as a “wonder drug” with immensely powerful antiviral and anti-inflammatory agents at the hearing before the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee.
Clips of Kory’s comments on ivermectin during the hearing were shared widely on social media with one clip receiving more than 1 million views on YouTube.
Ivermectin is approved in the U. S. in tablet form to treat parasitic worms as well as a topical solution to treat external parasites. The drug is also available for animals. The U. S. Food and Drug Administration and the National Institutes of Health have said that the drug is not approved for the prevention or treatment of COVID-19. According to the FDA, side effects for the drug include skin rash, nausea and vomiting.
Dr. Amesh Adalja, an infectious disease expert at Johns Hopkins University, said most of the research around ivermectin at the moment is made up of anecdotes and studies that are not the gold standard in terms of how to use ivermectin.
“We need to get much more data before we can say this is a definitive treatment, ” he said. “We would like to see more data before I recommend it to my patients. ”
Kory told the AP that he stands by the comments he made at the hearing, saying that he was not trying to promote the drug but the data around it.
In June, Australian researchers published the findings of a study that found ivermectin inhibited the replication of SARS-CoV-2 in a laboratory setting, which is not the same as testing the drug on humans or animals. Following the study, the FDA released a letter out of concern warning consumers not to self-medicate with ivermectin products intended for animals.
“It is a far cry from an in vitro lab replication to helping humans, ” said Dr. Nasia Safdar, medical director of infection prevention at the University of Wisconsin-Madison Hospital.
The discussion about the drug in the Senate hearing has some experts worried that Americans will start buying up ivermectin out of desperation. Despite a majority of evidence showing hydroxychloroquine is not an effective COVID-19 treatment, there was a rush on that drug earlier this year after President Donald Trump called it a cure. That depleted supply for those who needed the medication to treat lupus and other conditions.
In March, an Arizona couple attempted to self-medicate and took chloroquine phosphate, an additive used to clean fish tanks that is also an ingredient in hydroxychloroquine. The woman became gravely ill and the man died.
“If there is one thing we have learned in the pandemic is that we cannot jump the gun as far as determining or making assumptions about the effectiveness of potential agents, ” Safdar said.
[-] TrumpLyftAlles | 2 points
I sent an email to Dr. Safdar with links to the research. How can this be improved?
Hi, Prof. Safdar,
I saw you being quoted in a AP fact check article saying that in vitro results are a far cry from helping humans. That of course is true.
I got the impression that you aren't following the ivermectin research -- because a lot of studies have come out in the last few months. If you want to learn about the research, here are some good links for you.
An excellent synthesis of ivermectin research:
https://ivmmeta.com
The site is also available as a PDF that you can email to your colleagues, doctor, family and friends.
https://ivmmeta.com/ivm-meta.pdf
For a nicely-summarized list of trials/studies that link to the study reports:
https://c19ivermectin.com
The Frontline Covid-19 Critical Care Alliance is a consortium of 9 US MDs (including Drs. Marik and Kory) who have studied the research and concluded that ivermectin is a powerful prophylactic and therapeutic for covid19.
You can read their paper, "Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonstrating the Efficacy of Ivermectin in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19 (2020-11-28)" here:
https://osf.io/wx3zn
A video of FLCCC's 2020-12-04 call-to-action press conference, Dr. Kory's recent testimony before the US Senate, and other research is on their main page:
https://covid19criticalcare.com
Who am I? Just an ordinary person who has closely followed ivermectin since April. My friends and I have posted about 700 articles and studies to the ivermectin sub on reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ivermectin
Please visit the sub to share information about ivermectin. We're a friendly crew!
Yours in science!
[-] Excellent-Garden1718 | 3 points
Personally, I would not include a link the this sub. There is discussion of people who have used horse paste, etc., which is exactly what the article is warning against. People making their own choices about what to believe and what to put in their bodies. Oh, the HORROR!
[-] TrumpLyftAlles | 2 points
Mixed message?
[-] passfailboat | 1 points
AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. There’s no evidence ivermectin has been proven a safe or effective treatment against COVID-19.
These vipers will face judgment. I will not pray for mercy for them.
[-] NoSomewhere6020 | 1 points
AP report that there is no scientific proof that Adam and Eve are dead. Until someone brings scientific proof, they are deemed to be alive and well eating apples and talking to serpents in a remote garden in an unknown location. They keep saying “Bring more evidence”.
[-] giddyrobin | 3 points | Dec 11 2020 20:40:56
Yep. Did you see the byline from the AP on Tuesday from Dr. Kory's Senate Homeland Committee testimony? "Unproven alternative treatments"
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/washington-dc/articles/2020-12-08/johnson-touts-alternative-covid-19-treatments-at-hearing
Umm. AP did you even listen to all the data Dr. Kory shared?
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[-] foggynotion | 3 points | Dec 11 2020 20:48:13
Im not politically aligned with Sen. Ron Johnson by any means but I support a lot of his hearings and investigations. Unfortunately the only place Ive seen him advocating ivermectin was some clips on newsmax and alot of people consider it far right conspiracy news... seems like the only people who will be advocating for it will be conservatives and we all know how they will be treated in the media for even suggesting any alternative to a vaccine. it will get the same treatment and ridicule as HCQ - and probably even worse and more intense misinformation, since it actually works. I hope Dr. Kory is ready for whats about to come his way in terms of media smears and discredidation
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[-] rraak | 1 points | Dec 11 2020 20:50:51
Can something really be considered an "alternative" treatment when the mainstream treatment is to do nothing but provide supportive care and let the disease run its course?
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