stereomatch | 12 points
On the psychology of denial of simple solutions - the case of Ivermectin as an effective early treatment for covid-19Saw this post on the Ivermectin MD facebook page - and it mirrors the typical reaction when ivermectin is broached to a group of people previously unfamiliar with it. Often the reaction is one of ignoring - not even a flicker of interest.
What is the reason for this ? I suspect the reason is the absurdity of a simple solution when a whole industry is busy on previous trajectories of solutions that are in the works.
A simple solution is hard to believe, especially if the audience has no means or competence to judge the solution.
For others in the covid-19 fields, it may be a matter of them already busy on a path - they may be working on a solution which gives 10 percent benefit. And they may be hostile if something simple and fast seeks to neuter months long career-path related efforts they are working on.
This was the comment on Ivermectin MD facebook page:
https://m.facebook.com/groups/3595465843801899
Jay Anthony Sanchez As you discuss Ivermectin with people, you may find some reject your advice for what might appear to be no apparent reason, and some might even get angry with you. Don't let it hurt your feelings. It seems to me that this is the "Naaman effect". The Bible relates the story of Naaman, a Syrian (Aramean) commander with leprosy. Elisha told him he could be cured if he bathed in the waters of the Jordan. Naaman got mad at this suggestion because it seemed so easy to do (to correct such a difficult problem) that it didn’t make sense to him (he thought the prophet was toying with him or was just being flippant or insensitive) so his servant said, “If the prophet had told you to do something very difficult, wouldn’t you have done it?”. So Naaman bathed in the Jordan and was cured. Not everyone has Naaman's servant to talk some sense into them, unfortunately. But it seems to me that is not your problem - your job is simply to give good advice, like Elisha did, and let them decide whether or not to take that good advice or not.
[-] wallahmaybee | 2 points
Factors thought to contribute to the placebo effect in clinical practice include branding and cost of the medication. One study conducted in the United Kingdom showed that patients responded better to branded active treatment (versus generic active treatment) and branded placebo (versus generic placebo). In another study, half of patients were told that they would be receiving a great new drug that cost $2.50 per pill; the other half were told that it cost $0.10 per pill. Approximately 86% of patients who received the $2.50 pill reported pain relief, compared with 61% of those who received the $0.10 pill.
The more complex, expensive and painful the treatment, the better the placebo effect works.
Ivermectin is too simple and too cheap, too easy.
We're no smarter than the Emperor in Andersen's story.
[-] RequiredReddit | 2 points
Big pharma makes no money from ivermectin.
[-] magenta_thompson | 3 points | Nov 16 2020 00:09:58
I posted in Ivermectin conversations yesterday - I have a forward-thinking immunologist who prescribed it for me on day 3 of symptoms, as soon as I got my positive results. And I'm sitting in my home, with 98% 02 sat, alive and healing (I also have CVID so Covid19 was a scary diagnosis for me). It's only one case, but it leads me to ask: why is it such an uneven approach? Why did my doctor prescribe it, while others refuse to consider it? It makes no sense.
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[-] stereomatch | 2 points | Nov 16 2020 06:41:13
What was the progression of symptoms from day 3 taking ivermectin over next few days after that ?
Thanks.
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[-] magenta_thompson | 2 points | Nov 16 2020 09:38:24
My symptoms remained fairly static from day 3 through day 6: Mild cough, chest pressure, elevated heart rate upon any kind of exertion, and extreme fatigue. I also had a headache. But the fever and cough that I experienced in the first couple of days to not return. And my oxygen saturation stayed above 96 at all times.
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