massimaux | 5 points
I'm very sorry for this intrusion, but where is Prof. Borody? Why doesn't he brief the world about whatever he has done?https://progenabiome.com/treatment-clinical-trial
[-] TrumpLyftAlles | 1 points
Thanks for the link. From there, I found this interesting page:
Your test kit will include a Floratest™ and nose swab. The Floratest™ fee is typically $870 per kit, which includes the cost of the kit, shipping, the gut flora genetic sequencing, and results. HOWEVER, due to the current state of emergency, Dr. Hazan is accepting donations in lieu of full payment.
[-] TrumpLyftAlles | 1 points
AFAIK he hasn't done anything.
His trial is marked "Not Yet Recruiting" on ClinicalTrials. He should get started on the recruiting. It's a good time: California had almost 5500 new cases yesterday. The trial is not due to be completed until April 2021. As we've seen, CT dates are optimistic.
Borody said in an interview that ivermectin could have us all home by Christmas -- but he cleverly didn't specify Christmas of which year.
After his RCT is done, if the results are sufficiently persuasive and Borody and his partner can find investors to fund the FDA approval process, when that gets done, then they have to deal with manufacturing and distribution. My wild guess is that BorodyMectin(tm) might be available for purchase by Christmas 2021, but Christmas 2022 is more likely. How much? I'll hazard $300 per 3-day treatment, a bargain compared to Remdesivir, which costs $1 to make and costs $3000 (and doesn't work).
With luck the pharmacies will be stocked and ready for covid23.
Sorry, I'm being cynical. BorodyMectin(tm) is a joke; they've already announced the brand name for their new drug: IverBorody(tm). Sorry. I forget the brand name.
Edit: Why hasn't the trial started recruiting? Have subsequent ivermectin studies made Borody less confident? Is he concerned that the vaccines are going to eliminate his market? He hasn't started recruiting for his HCQ + AZT + OTHERS trial either.
[-] Fun_Journalist_727 | 3 points
You only mention Dr. Borody.
Have you ever heard of:
Dr. Antonio Camargo? Dr. Paul Marik? Dr. José Natalio Redondo? Dr. Oscar A. Soto? Dr. Pierre Kory? Dr. Jhonny Tavares Capellán?
ALL, each and every one of them use Ivermectin with incredible success and their interviews are all over YouTube and the internet and thus available to all who have an IQ above 60, which is why most Americans have never heard of them. Any populace that let’s an utter sleaze bag like Fauci to advise them to “stay home if you get Covid and don’t seek help until you’re unable to breathe” is a populace of morons who get what they deserve. Most American “doctors” just let their patients die and the tiny handful who try to save lives get scorned by the media AND by the moronic populace they’re trying to save! You can’t make this sh*t up!
[-] TrumpLyftAlles | 1 points
Dr. Pierre Kory
While I can't say they all leapt to mind, the doctors you mention all appear in the sub except Dr. Soto. Dr. Redondo was one of the first ivermectin heroes; it's a shame that he has never produced a formal study. Dr. Kory barely gets a mention, as a member of FLCCC.
Would you please post what you consider to be the best English-language video by each of those two doctors, Soto and Kory? It will help if you write a paragraph or two summary of each of the videos. For those of us who have been watching ivermectin for a while, it's difficult to watch videos that just rehash familiar ground, so it's motivating if a summary points us at (for example) the results of new research. Thanks!
[-] Fun_Journalist_727 | 2 points
For English language the best would be Dr. Paul Marik and Dr. Kory. Also a doctor named Jean-Jaques Rajter from Broward County, FL. Another is Dr. Bruce Boros of the Florida Keys. Hydroxychloroquine with Zinc also is as effective as Ivermectin when used EARLY, but in later stages it is less effective. Ivermectin is effective EARLY but unlike HCQ it can also be used in Covid’s later stages and it has brought people back from the brink of death. Remember too that the American News media is purposely ignoring these doctors and then trying to slander them when forced to mention them. That is why they and these drugs (Ivermectin & HCQ) get very little attention. It’s a damn disgrace that is causing the heavy loss of lives.
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[-] TrumpLyftAlles | 1 points
I asked you to remove the politics from this post. You didn't. I'm removing the post.
You are talking about the US trial and I meant the trial in nursing homes in Australia. In the last AU podcast interview at the end of September, he said that "they would come up with an announcement and joint statement probably in a couple of weeks". He also hinted that they already had success with the first patients.
The question is, what happened?
Here is the last interview on Sep. 28:
https://omny.fm/shows/triple-m-night-shift/a-follow-up-with-professor-thomas-borody
[-] TrumpLyftAlles | 1 points
I clicked around, couldn't find the bit about the trial.
[-] TrumpLyftAlles | 1 points
I asked /u/Fun_Journalist_727 to remove the political content of his post about 10 hours ago. He responded to this thread without doing so, so I deleted his post. This is his post with the political bullshit removed.
You only mention Dr. Borody. Have you ever heard of: Dr. Antonio Camargo? Dr. Paul Marik? Dr. José Natalio Redondo? Dr. Oscar A. Soto? Dr. Pierre Kory? Dr. Jhonny Tavares Capellán? ALL, each and every one of them use Ivermectin with incredible success and their interviews are all over YouTube and the internet and thus available to all who have an IQ above 60, which is why most Americans have never heard of them.
[-] [deleted] | 1 points
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The above trial Sponsor- ProgenaBiome First Posted 7/22 and has not started to recruit yet!
Here is one that does:https://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04621461?term=zinc&cond=Covid19&cntry=US&draw=2
[-] TrumpLyftAlles | 1 points
Sorry, I'm not following. The trial you linked (besides not involving ivermectin) is also not recruiting.
Please explain what you're getting at?!
way way too few cases in Au to do a trial now successfully
The trial already recruited elderly people and infected staff in aged care facilities in Victoria during September. The question is, why is Borody silent?
recruiting people to a trial is one thing. generating data based on cases another. They have no cases
No, you don't understand. Recruited people in the trial were already infected - elderly + staff. That's what Borody said.
And they received therapy. The question is, when are they going to publish the results?
where did he say that? given the low number of overall infections there i surely doubt a trial could be done prospectively
https://omny.fm/shows/triple-m-night-shift/a-follow-up-with-professor-thomas-borody
Sep. 28, at time: 3m0s: (his words)
We have a study underway now, in the aged care facilities in Victoria for both patients and actively infected staff, and those who have not received a preventative dose. And we'll be making a statement and joint announcement about this shortly, probably in a couple of weeks.
[-] RodRWA | 2 points | Nov 13 2020 17:56:06
1. On 18Oct20, I posted a Comment under the name RodRWA at the following reddit location:
1.1. https://www.reddit.com/r/ivermectin/comments/jcmjn4/ivermectin_added_to_the_australian_covid/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
2. The Comment mentioned Prof Borody in the following ▪︎paragraphs:
2.1.▪︎5. I have a very minor association with the paradoxical & illusive Prof Borody, which has allowed me to talk to him for a few minutes during just one phone call. This only happened after a couple of emails & a number of phone calls by me to his work place (offices or clinic) in Sydney (Australia). During that brief phone call, he provided very few facts then suddenly said he had to go but promised to call me back, which he never did. He also has provided me with no personal ph nos of his, hence my suggestion that he's "illusive". TLA's Comment of: "Borody is aggressively vague" is VERY ASTUTE!
2.2▪︎6. It has also been suggested that Borody's vagueness is a deliberate effort to control his financial interests in his so-called Ivermectin Triple Therapy (ITT). After all, every one of the 3 components of the ITT is available individually, either on prescription (Ivermectin & Doxycycline) from potentially any doctor, or across-the-counter (Zinc). I believe the only way he can control any doctor from using "his" supposed invention is to control knowledge of the dosage.
2.3.▪︎7. I can easily & accurately guess what the dosage is. It's been revealed indirectly by a number of anecdotal documents by free-minded doctors, generally in USA & S.America, who have been very successful (often 100% successful) in treating infected patients with off-label Ivermectin etc. Doseage is:
2.4.▪︎7.1. IVERMECTIN: One Standard Single Dose (SSD) (my terminology) IMMEDIATELY after COVID-19 infection is confirmed or reasonably suspected if no testing facility is available. If symptoms persist after 7 days or are not totally eradicated: One more SSD. In the extremely unlikely event symptoms are not totally eradicated after 14 days, consider seeking medical advice &/or possibly try a double Standard Single Dose provided there has been no adverse reaction from previous SSDs. Ivermectin has been tested to 10x that dosege without any toxic or extreme side-effects.
2.5..▪︎7.1.1. One Standard Single Dose (SSD) is 1×3mg Ivermectin Tablet per 15-to-20kg Patient Body Wt eg for patient weighing say 70kg, dosage is 4x Tablets.
2.6..▪︎7.1.1.1. 15-to-20kg Patient Body Wt = 33-to-44lbs (1kg = 2.2lbs)
2.7.▪︎7.2. DOXYCYCLINE: As per standard Doxycycline prescription format ie normally 1x Tablet/Capsule once or twice a day, on every day until the prescribed number of Tablets/Capsules have all been consumed.
2.8.▪︎7.3. ZINC: As per instructions on the bottle, normally one or two Tablets/Capsules per day.
2.9.▪︎7.4. NOTE: frequency of Tablet/Capsule consumption is generally the same for Doxycycline & Zinc ie once or twice DAILY which is totally different from the Ivermectin ie WEEKLY.
3. Further info re Prof Borody is from:
3.1. https://www.nps.org.au/news/ivermectin-and-covid-19-for-hps
4. The info is as follows:
4.1. "The Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA, which is Australia's equivalent of the FDA) are currently investigating ‘promotion’ of an ivermectin-based regimen for COVID-19, by gastroenterologist Professor Thomas Borody. Professor Borody, who developed triple-therapy for Helicobacter pylori infection, has recommended that GPs prescribe a triple therapy protocol using ivermectin, doxycycline and zinc. However, some of his comments are being investigated by the TGA as they potentially breach the ban on advertising COVID-19 treatments.*18
4.2. *18: Scholefield A. TGA launches probe as GPs urged to prescribe ivermectin 'COVID cure'. Pyrmont, NSW: AusDoc, 2020 (accessed 26 August 2020).
5. I suspect Prof Borody is avoiding prosecution by the fanatical Oz authorities by practising on the quiet. Here’s a success story from some 10 weeks ago:
5.1. https://gumshoenews.com/2020/08/30/ivermectin-professor-borody-the-94-year-old-woman-and-the-federal-government/
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[-] garbow1 | 1 points | Nov 15 2020 04:30:43
I appear to have been working along the same lines as you. I started with Sepsis in June 2019, then transitioned. My interested started as a sepsis survivor after the Ed doctor told me "you could have died". Sepsis deaths is still a problem. Subsequently, after discharge, I enquired from the hospital whether the Marik HAT protocol was available. The answer was no (I don't think they knew what it was).
I also live in SE Qld (Bayside Brisbane). Perhaps we could 'exchange notes'. My address is garbow@wix.com.au
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