TrumpLyftAlles | 5 points
This doctor has COVID. He has a plan. For all of us. (US 2020-10-30) MD describes treating himself at home with IVM and HCQhttps://www.trialsitenews.com/this-doctor-has-covid-he-has-a-plan-for-all-of-us/
[-] Ill-Hand-404 | 2 points
It seems like common sense to start treating a virus right at the first symptom, instead of waiting for it to take it's toll on the body and start doing damage.
[-] Alexanderandjeff | 2 points
I really like 2 facemasks...I believe I mentioned this already ...The Sonovia Facemask is very comfortable ...Its suppose to be useful for up to 50 washes. I use an cpap ozonater...Get a hose and a small clear storage bin ,sealed againt water and put my facemask , watches ,headphones etc... The ozone gas kills all microbes on it in 20 minutes ..I believe the facemask if not washed more then once a month using ozone could last for years Also I like the Trend stealth Mask as a 2nd choice...Has small membrabe filters that can be easily changed for different filtering purposes its rated n100...There are other multitudes of other masks out there I like the ones that have good seals and have one polypropylene layer that will block out droplets .Not sure if .Sonovia has a layer like that but claims with its zinc nano particle layer , is better then 99.9 protective against viruses. So even though its a bit pricey is a good choice In my view. I have nothing to do with these companies.
[-] TrumpLyftAlles | 1 points
Would you please give me links to where I can buy the masks? Amazon preferred?!
[-] Alexanderandjeff | 2 points
I might have suggested this as well ..Its important ...I think nebulization would be a great prophylactic as it gargling with lets say listerine daily ...Nebulization has been used for decades and considered safe .. Hydrogen Peroxide 3% ...and Iodine seems effective..Might want to investigate that as well
[-] Alexanderandjeff | 1 points
Its a potent anti pathogen agent . It became popular probably in the 80's ...Heres an excellent link...
https://doctorsnutrition.com/the-natural-antiviral-effects-of-lysine-and-olive-leaf-extract/#:~:text=Both%20L%2Dlysine%20and%20Olive,stop%20viruses%20in%20their%20tracks.
[-] TrumpLyftAlles | 1 points
Abstract
Objectives COVID-19 patients suffer from the lack of curative therapy. Hence, there is an urgent need to try repurposed old drugs on COVID-19.
Methods
Randomized controlled study on 70 COVID-19 patients (48 mild-moderate, 11 severe, and 11 critical patients) treated with 200ug/kg PO of Ivermectin per day for 2-3 days along with 100mg PO doxycycline twice per day for 5-10 days plus standard therapy; the second arm is 70 COVID-19 patients (48 mild-moderate and 22 severe and zero critical patients) on standard therapy. The time to recovery, the progression of the disease, and the mortality rate were the outcome-assessing parameters.
Results
Among all patients and among severe patients, 3/70 (4. 28%) and 1/11 (9%), respectively progressed to a more advanced stage of the disease in the Ivermectin-Doxycycline group versus 7/70 (10%) and 7/22 (31. 81%), respectively in the control group (P0. 05). The mortality rate was 0/48 (0%), 0/11 (0%), and 2/11 (18. 2%) in mild-moderate, severe, and critical COVID-19 patients, respectively in Ivermectin-Doxycycline group versus 0/48 (0%), and 6/22 (27. 27%) in mild-moderate and severe COVID-19 patients, respectively in standard therapy group (p=0. 052). Moreover, the mean time to recovery was 6. 34, 20. 27, and 24. 13 days in mild-moderate, severe, and critical COVID-19 patients, respectively in Ivermectin-Doxycycline group versus 13. 66 and 24. 25 days in mild-moderate and severe COVID-19 patients, respectively in standard therapy group (P<0. 01).
Conclusions
Ivermectin with doxycycline reduced the time to recovery and the percentage of patients who progress to more advanced stage of disease; in addition, Ivermectin with doxycycline reduced mortality rate in severe patients from 22. 72% to 0%; however, 18. 2% of critically ill patients died with Ivermectin and doxycycline therapy. Taken together, the earlier administered Ivermectin with doxycycline, the higher rate of successful therapy.
[-] Alexanderandjeff | 0 points
Not sure about 10000 IUs sublingual...Dont know if it actually goes right into the blood without the need for processing...To me it cant but it will bypass the stomach.... hydrogen peroxide nebulized, cl02 nebulized no more then 1 ppm in 4oz of water , nebulized Iodine ... This to me seems a great addition to Ivermectin if we contact this any viral or even non pathogen in our lungs .
[-] Alexanderandjeff | -1 points
Once it was understood that the elements that could kill or damage us was not the virus but it fragments that remain of the virus after it kills it..So by day 3 is when therapy should start. Daily testing or get a dog that can pick up the scent.....I guess in the beginning doctors were constrained to just oxygen and ventilators..Some tried asprin ir nasids and then it evolved to corticosteroid use...As shocking as this is at this point .I know more about this subject then most doctors know by just paying attention to whats here and those doctors and researchers on youtube...Most doctors seems disinterested.. . So 6 or 7 months ago and even to this day by the time some are so sick and dont suffocate or get a stroke or heart attack and make it to a hospital it too late .. Most doctor do care about keeping their patients alive but dont want to jeopardize losing their medical licenses and not cross the FDA until they give the green light. So in the US alone 1000 die each day..So for most of us who are here at this website and elsewhere on Youtube we seem to need to be our own doctors to keep us out of the hospital...We are trying to determine where success has lied so we can lesson the likelihood we would need hospitalization in case we get symptoms...Over the last 6 months the reason why ventilators make things worse is when the normal gases in the alveolar cant be exchanged .. So the forcing of oxygen into the lung causes further damages to the lungs leading to a quick a horrible death ... The answer to this is simple and has neen known for months already... Where facemasks to lower viral load entering into the respiratory track ..Ivermectin and Hyrocloroquine +zinc as soon as symptoms arise or Ecgc or Quercetin + zinc ...Vit D blood levels should be brought up to 70 to 100 ngs/ milliliter range ..Get high grade multi vitamins in the fizz or powder form ...Since doctors will not give you Ivermectin we could be forced to use the animal form which is easily available but need to be careful measuring it...L-lysine and Olive leave extract seem to work as Prophylactics at the very least ...Artemisinin as well.. Dr. Bartlett suggested Budesonide ,but thats the tricky part is when do you start nebulizing yourself ..First you need to get a perscription. Good luck...Then nebulized Hydrogen peroxide 3% ,food grade ..Iodine nebulized could work..Need to determine how much and how long.to nebulize.Some people have tried nebulized MMS as a Prophylactic ..No more the .1 to 1 ppm in 4oz of water... Double your facemasks makes a lot of sence.....I use the Sonovia mask and another n100 together when I go into a risky environment like a gym. If you dont get any viral load you can't get sick.All of the above is for prevention. .An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure .. If in the hospital make sure your Doctor knows about the Math + protocol.... A good question comes to mind which no one has ever brought up ....Approximately how many viral particles is necessary to start an active infection.?
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[-] TrumpLyftAlles | 1 points
MMS
? What's that?
I use the Sonovia mask and another n100 together when I go into a risky environment like a gym.
Links to where these can be purchased, please.
Approximately how many viral particles is necessary to start an active infection
Michael Mina has said (IIRC) that a PCR CT = 35 is roughly the amount of virus that can be cultured. Not sure how many viral particles that is or whether more are needed to start an active infection. I would guess more.
There's a lot in your post. I haven't even heard of olive leaf extract before. Thanks.
[-] Alexanderandjeff | 0 points
Hi ... Olive leaf extract was recognized and was pretty popular around that time ..as was Oil of Oregano in the 80's.... Those in the know have it in their toolbox...Artemisinin is another one ...Being used in Madagascar....L -Lysine in the Dominican Republic...Dominican Republic doing pretty poorly until a person knowledgeable about that introduced that to the medical community...Death rate plummeted...Madagascar death and case rate always low...Probably related to facemasks + Artemisinin + 7 million vaccinated with MMS vaccine. Not to confused with MMS which is what Humble called it...Actually is Clorine Dioxide... made by combining 4% hydrochloric acid and 24% Sodium Cholrite....Check out Andreas Kalcker website... Ecuador has approved its use and I believe it helped lower the death rate there.
https://doctorsnutrition.com/the-natural-antiviral-effects-of-lysine-and-olive-leaf-extract/#:~:text=Both%20L%2Dlysine%20and%20Olive,stop%20viruses%20in%20their%20tracks.
[-] Alexanderandjeff | 1 points
Sonoviatech.com take a look at this. . Also use the Trend mask N100 stealth ...Bulky but effective.. Has a nice silicone ring around it that seals very well
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[-] Alexanderandjeff | 1 points
Try again sonoviatech.com does bring me to their website.
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[-] TrumpLyftAlles | 1 points
Thanks very much, AandJ! I always appreciate links.
Ivermectin is a hypothetical reason for Africa's low COVID-19 rate. A quick google turned up this study which says:
Although most sub-Saharan countries endemic for LF use ivermectin combined with albendazole in their elimination programs, the region includes also countries or areas that are nonendemic for onchocerciasis or loiasis (e.g., Kenya, Zanzibar, Comoros, Sao Tome and Principe, Eritrea, Madagascar, Zambia, and Zimbabwe)...
There are doctors applying ivermectin in the Dominican Republic successfully, but the DR authorities aren't endorsing it.
[-] Alexanderandjeff | 2 points
Yes , I also heard Ivermectin could be related to the low case and death rate or was it simply wearing facemasks? In Africa since health care is very hard to come by every government required facemasking early on ....Hard to say for sure except if you look at Thailand, Australia, New Zealand, Japan , Taiwan and New York City there seems to be a strong relationship to wearing simple facemasks and low case rate and low mortality rate...Especially telling is when NYC, after March where they lost over 20,000 , required facemasking. Their case and death rate really plummeted within weeks ...The way I see it when facemasks cover the mouth and nostrils , viral load drops and then the disease is less severe or even eliminated ..Almost like having established a kind of herd immunity....The virus cant find new hosts and starts to disappear. Mutations cant counteract that ..
[-] TrumpLyftAlles | 1 points
The way I see it when facemasks cover the mouth and nostrils , viral load drops and then the disease is less severe or even eliminated
If that was shown to be true, I would (kind of) be interested in getting the minimum dose of virus, to catch it with some confidence of having an easy course. Use the virus itself as a pseudo-vaccine.
[-] Alexanderandjeff | 2 points
That also came to my mind early on but for me at my age and with no therapeutics available, back then was not an appealing strategy...It also came to mind, why not just inject dead or very weakened virus right into blood stream ..I was told you could get the disease...At that time the reason for its lethality was not clear. ...today we know the damage is caused by an overactive or disreregulated immune response...The cytokines, or bradykinnen storm mostly and affects our lung area where our alveoli reside...Now we know that might not be true ...Cytokine can affect our whole body ..Can the virus still be hiding in our nerve cells etc ...The blood clotting and the alveoli being filled with hyaluronic acid. which is a gel like substance which then appears to harden and contributes to hypoxia and then the cytokins destroy our lung tissue ..Moves to becoming fibrotic within days and appears to most life threatening....Killing the virus early on is the key ...Low fragment viral load could be the key as it dices up the viruses in a day or two...But .Another question then comes to mind ..So if its the fragments of dead virus being blamed for the those that are long haulers or is it something else. ..After all, we get infected by Corona type viruses all the time...In the case of the potentially deadly ones it as has been suggested, could be the bodies innate arm being delayed in killing the virus early on for some reason ..The virus uses every possible to survive as long as possible so it can spead itself to others...The virus has not figured out how to stay in our bodies long term ...So as the virus replicates in its race to live another day to spread our immune system cant fight back eatly on for spme and thus replicates like crazy ...When the immune system finally gets a grip and dismantles it there are trillions of fragments which continue to cause havoc..
So it makes a lot of sense to make sure we have upfront early defenses for some is critical....VitD ,C,A....Melatonin, Zinc,Quercetin, Egcg etc I get carried away at times ...Sorry but your idea is excellent...Low viral loads give additional space and time for the immune system to react and dismantle the virus early on....How does one measure the viral load that does little harm yet produces a B ,T and Antibody response ...No one knows ...Any opinion is opinion not science based yet..There are new studies being undertaken to draw this connection ...Decades ago studies did show less viral load lessens or leads to no disease at all ..Immune system does its job in a day or two...We feel sick after that based on the inflammation not the virus or pathogen...If not the case death ensues quickly as our immune system fails and the pathogen thrives...So low viral load at the eraly stages is preferred for sure...We know viral load is lowered wearing facemasks ...It makes sense...Less viral particles have trouble getting through barriers..Lower case and death rates ensue .This is consistent with countries that seem to have sucess with facemasking.
Ivermectin is the super star...Found by doctor looking for an answer for this horrific pademic For me ,with it Id use it in combination with L-lysine and Olive leaf extract . If I had some use Doxycycline as well And for me Vit D and Zinc as well..Egcg and Quercetin...Or throw kitchen sink at it since these nutrients cant do any harm I really like Nebulized stuff especially Cl02 ...I have a paper written by Robert O Young explaining why Chlorine Dioxide is such an incredible pathogen killer....Easy to make and use......The really great part is that through some chemicals reactions when anaerobic pathogens are detected , the oxygen atom is unleashed and utterly destroys pathogens...Clo2 is attracted to low ph pathogens which are viruses .Wouldnt we rather literally tear the virus apart giving our immune system some time to do its incredible thing...Ill try to find that paper and share it with you and all of us here.A very interesting paper in my view.
[-] Alexanderandjeff | 1 points
https://medcraveonline.com/IJVV/chlorine-dioxide-clo2-as-a-non-toxic-antimicrobial-agent-for-virus-bacteria-and-yeast-candida-albicans.html
[-] TrumpLyftAlles | 1 points
So many things to respond to.
So if its the fragments of dead virus being blamed for the those that are long haulers or is it something else
The long-haulers are experiencing miserable symptoms. I suspect that it's due to virus hiding in parts of the body where a nose swab won't pick it up. Dr. Aguirre did a (kind of) study with ivermectin + aspirin for long-haulers. Can't recall if he reported results yet.
In the case of the potentially deadly ones it as has been suggested, could be the bodies innate arm being delayed in killing the virus early on for some reason
I looked up innate immunity:
Innate immunity refers to nonspecific defense mechanisms that come into play immediately or within hours of an antigen's appearance in the body. These mechanisms include physical barriers such as skin, chemicals in the blood, and immune system cells that attack foreign cells in the body.
For covid-19, the defenses would have to be in the epithelial cells of the nasopharynx, where the virus first takes root. Covid-19 overcomes those somehow. Nebulizer!
The virus has not figured out how to stay in our bodies long term
I'm not so sure: see long-haulers.
Egcg
Never heard of that one. The top article when I google it:
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/egcg-epigallocatechin-gallate
Wow, that's a long list of benefits. I'll look into it, thanks!
a paper written by Robert O Young explaining why Chlorine Dioxide is such an incredible pathogen killer
Are you actually making and nebulizing it?
I have some liquid ivermectin (injectable for cattle) and a nebulizer, but I have no idea about how to use it. What concentration of ivermectin is useful and safe? Do you understand that stuff? I think the ivermectin is 1% / ML. No idea what that means.
[-] [deleted] | 4 points | Oct 31 2020 16:00:43
This is the second TrialSiteNews article by Mary Beth Pfeiffer. It's excellent, too.
The big theme is that US (NIH) policy for people who have covid19 is for them to wait it out without any therapy until they're so sick that they need to go to the hospital. The doctor objects, on the grounds that early treatment is important and may forestall any need for the hospital -- and hospitals are being overwhelmed and it's just going to get worse. It recounts his self-treatment protocol: among other things, he took ivermectin for the first 3 days, and felt better -- then he took HCQ for 5 days, which he credits for his recovery.
The article also explores the regulatory hassles HCQ encounters in the US.
This 7-minute video is the doctor describing his experience. Well worth your time, IMO.
I find it interesting that the doctor emphasizes cleaning all the surfaces in his home, on the assumption that they're repositories of virus, to prevent getting re-infected. I thought the fomites theory was discounted?! He also made a point of having the windows open to reduce the level of virus in his home. That doesn't make sense to me (esp. given that it's 35 degrees out, where I live in Boston), but he's the doctor.
Follow the links if you want to learn a lot more about HCQ. I found this site very impressive. Click the Ivermectin link at the top to see a compilation of ivermectin studies.
The doctor is the lead author of this article:
Pathophysiological Basis and Rationale for Early Outpatient Treatment of SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) Infection which was posted to the sub here a couple weeks ago. I complained that the accompanying video featured ivermectin a slide, but IVM was omitted from the equivalent image in the paper.
The TSN article links to this update (PDF) that has IVM in the image. I wonder if the update will get the visibility of the original paper; it's very short, just 3 pages, not really a paper.
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