TrumpLyftAlles | 2 points | Jul 03 2020 22:29:22

Vermifuge as hope against covid some of the pharmacies of Campo Grande (Brazil, 2020-07-01)

https://www.campograndenews.com.br/cidades/capital/vermifugo-tido-como-esperanca-contra-covid-some-das-farmacias-de-campo-grande

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[-] TrumpLyftAlles | 1 points | Jul 03 2020 22:52:35

It appears that vermifuge is another word for ivermectin.

#Ivermectin, used against worms, parasites and lice gains adherence among doctors, but is not endorsed by the Society of Infectious Diseases

After hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine cause a rush to pharmacies, now it is the turn of ivermectin, a medicine used against worms and parasites, to be the new hope against the new coronavirus (covid-19). In Campo Grande, the demand in pharmacies doubled, zeroing stocks and even forming a waiting list. The vermifuge also gained followers in the medical profession.

However, doctors from the pulmonology and infectology societies warn that there is no scientific evidence of the use of vermifuge as an early treatment or in the clinical evolution of patients infected with covid-19.

There's a lot more than no scientific evidence. No doubt this is the usual snobbery that anything except a double-blind random control trial should be ignored -- which is good advice when you're not in a pandemic that has killed half-a-million people and is still rampaging some regions.

Ivermectin is a vermifuge discovered in 1975, used for years also for problems related to mites, such as scabies and lice. The package insert states that it is contraindicated for patients with meningitis or other diseases of the central nervous system. It is also not suitable for children under 15 pounds or under 5 years.

Ivermectin is safe for everyone including young children.

Of 170 infants and children weighing < 15 kg who were treated for scabies with oral ivermectin, there were only seven reported mild adverse events and no serious ones.

continuing with the article...

One of the defenders of the use of the vermifuge, both in prevention and treatment, is the nutritionist and toxicologist, Sandro Benites, who has been prescribing the vermifuge for about three months. According to him, a WhatsApp group of other professionals from Campo Grande already has about 200 doctors, who share the idea.

Benites started the treatment after knowing the results of group tests of about 600 association doctors in Belém do Pará (PA) and Porto Feliz (SP) where the vermifuge was used as a preventive and, in cases of symptoms, associated with hydroxychloroquine or clarithromycin, being dosed by prescription.

IVERTODO Reports about Belém do Pará?

The results of the cases were released live, in which the doctor participated. In Porto Feliz, the kit was given to 4,500 contacts, that is, people who only had contact with covid patients and, according to Mayor Antônio Prado, also a doctor, none of them developed the disease. In cases of those infected with mild symptoms, the vermifuge was associated with another medication and these patients did not progress to severe disease.

Prophylaxis.

In his social network, Benites defended the use of vermifuge.

“I believe in these two medications; let's suppose that I'm wrong, but, let's assume that I'm right and don't do anything, I'll be silent”, defends Benites, also claiming that it is cheap medicine, with few side effects and no history of intoxication by use.

Two? Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine? He also mentioned clarithromycin.

So far, health authorities have not reached a consensus on medication and there are still studies around the world looking for a cure or prevention of covid. The consensus, for now, is the use of masks and social distance.

Good point.

Infectologist Priscilla Alexandrino, technical coordinator of the Department of Infectology at Santa Casa, said that caution is needed, as there is no scientific evidence to support the wormer's prescription.

There is a lot of (scientific-ish) evidence, just not FDC/CDC-quality evidence.

“It is still early, there is no indication of scientific societies for use; can it be possible? Yes, but studies are still going on, you cannot resort to fear, despair,”he said.

In a publication on May 20, the Brazilian Society of Infectious Diseases also warned about the care of medications such as ivermectin or chloroquine that were gaining evidence as a possible treatment for covid-19. He informed that there are more than 1,600 studies being carried out on various remedies and caution is necessary due to the dynamics of the disease, in which new information is known every day.

1,600 studies are being carried out -- so sit there paralyzed in your uncertainty? Not buying the reasoning.

Yesterday (29), it was the turn of the Brazilian Society of Pulmonology and Tisiology to comment. "There is no scientific evidence that any of the medications available in Brazil, such as ivermectin, chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine, alone or in combination, collaborate for better clinical evolution of cases". It also warns that there is no scientific evidence that the dewormer prevents "the onset of the disease in uninfected individuals".

No RCTs, true. Lots of experience and anecdotal evidence.

Benites believes that there is also no way to wait for the publication of this scientific evidence, as it may take years. “There will be no protocol now, we are doing it, it is a new disease; waiting for publication would be a time of peace, now it is a time of war and pandemic”, he says. The doctor warns, however, that the use needs to be prescribed by a doctor and refuses self-medication.

Right, take years. Million dead? Two million?

Is the self-medication concern anything other than protecting their fees as MDs? Ivermectin is ridiculously safe.

Running - in pharmacies in Campo Grande, the demand for vermifuge has doubled in recent days. In a survey carried out by the report, several establishments zeroed out the stock and awaited a new shipment to serve those who entered the waiting line.

At Pag Menos, Rua Ceará, sales increased by 100% and made the box disappear, costing between R $ 12 and R $ 18. In São Bento, all units are missing and the box with 4 tablets should only arrive from the 10th of July. At São Leopoldo, the drug is sold for R $ 27.10, it is over and the end of the afternoon today or even Friday will come.

At Farmácia Real Mais, the medicine is missing. According to information obtained by the report, many people bought because of news related to covid-19 and are still looking for replacement. At DrogaCare, demand is on the rise. "Everyone is calling here about the medicine," said the employee. On the spot, the carton with 8 capsules was sold for R $ 48.

Apparently people think it works. Doesn't mean it does.

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[-] converter-bot | 1 points | Jul 03 2020 22:52:42

15.0 kg is 33.04 lbs

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