JJChamie's chart showing the different COVID-19 infection rates for regions of Peru, those not using ivermectin vs those which are (posted to twitter on 2020-06-19)

[-] TrumpLyftAlles | 2 points | Jun 19 2020 22:10:47

Looks like prima facie evidence of ivermectin's impact!

[-] okayatarter | 2 points | Jun 19 2020 23:09:41

Didn’t understand this. Could you explain? 😬

[-] TrumpLyftAlles | 2 points | Jun 19 2020 23:12:45

Looking at the chart, the "con" (without ivermectin) states on the left have accelerating deaths, and the "with ivermectin" states on the right show declining death rates -- at least a couple do. JJ said that two of those on the right only started using ivermectin in the last week, so the charts don't show the effect, I guess.

Accelerating vs declining: ivermectin works?!

Edit: I had it wrong, Loreto and Piura that have just started using ivermectin are on the chart on the left. If ivermectin works in those regions, the curves should start bending down, showing a falling death rate.

[-] okayatarter | 2 points | Jun 19 2020 23:30:48

Could it be the opposite? I mean, the “con” chart... The death rate percentage is lower. E.g. Ucayali seems to have 1.1% cases per population, but deaths / population is around 0.02

But for Callao, it’s 0.04 (further on the right; so more deaths per population)

And one on the “sin” chart has like 5.8% death rate.

The further a line goes to the right, the higher the death rate, right?

[-] nojox | 2 points | Jun 20 2020 19:52:53

Yes, I realised that too. The graphs should be redrawn with axes interchanged. And the fact that the Y axes have different spacing, that too is bad form.

If you read the graphs and the info, it appears ivermectin is helping, but the graphs need to be redrawn for clarity.

u/TrumpLyftAlles

Edit: https://imgur.com/wbu9K4e

[-] TrumpLyftAlles | 1 points | Jun 19 2020 22:33:54

From JJ:

From them, only Loreto and Piura have been using ivermectin since early May . Libertad and Arequipa just started this week.

[-] jjchamie | 1 points | Jun 21 2020 06:44:36

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"<p lang="ca" dir="ltr"Efecto de la ivermectina en la mortalidad del COVID.<brIvermectin effect in COVID mortality rate. <a href="https://t.co/gzgsULx2vv"pic.twitter.com/gzgsULx2vv</a</p\— J Chamie (@jjchamie) <a href="https://twitter.com/jjchamie/status/1274589080119017472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"June 21, 2020</a</blockquote <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"</script

[-] Qoti | 1 points | Jun 21 2020 06:05:21

Con ivermectina - With Ivermectin

Sin ivermectina - Sans/Without Ivermectin